Full Committee Hearing with Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent

Committee on Ways and Means

2025-06-11

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Summary

This meeting of the committee addressed the economic agenda of the current administration, focusing heavily on a proposed tax bill, trade policies, and the national debt, with Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent as the sole witness. Discussions were often contentious, with members from both parties voicing strong opinions and posing pointed questions regarding the bill's potential impacts on various segments of the American population and the national economy.

Themes

Tribute to Charlie Rangel

The meeting began with a moment of bipartisan remembrance for former colleague Charlie Rangel, who recently passed away. Speakers highlighted his dedication to public service, his humble beginnings, and his significant contributions during over 40 years on the Ways and Means Committee, including his role in the African Growth and Opportunity Act (AGOA) and the Affordable Care Act (ACA).[ 00:20:10-00:20:20 ] [ 00:23:09-00:23:37 ] He was remembered as a "joyful warrior" and a mentor who overcame extraordinary odds in his life.[ 00:20:47 ]

"One Big Beautiful Bill" Tax Policy

The proposed "One Big Beautiful Bill" was a central theme, with Republicans and the administration advocating for it as a means to ignite American prosperity. Secretary Bessent asserted that the bill would make the 2017 tax cuts permanent, benefiting working and middle-class families through measures like no tax on tips and overtime, tax cuts for seniors, and an increased child tax credit.[ 00:31:43-00:31:54 ]

He argued it would incentivize significant investment in U.S. manufacturing, create jobs, boost American GDP, and lead to non-inflationary growth.[ 00:32:49-00:33:14 ] Republicans also stated the bill would cut spending by $1.6 trillion and ensure that the truly wealthy pay a greater share of the tax burden.[ 00:33:07-00:33:14 ] [ 00:32:28-00:32:34 ] The administration warned of a "cataclysmic" economic "sudden stop" if the bill is not passed.[ 01:21:14-01:21:30 ]

Democrats vehemently opposed the bill, arguing it primarily benefits the wealthy and would add trillions of dollars to the national debt, citing projections from the CBO, Penn Wharton, Yale Budget Lab, and the Tax Foundation. They expressed concerns that the bill would cause 16 million Americans to lose healthcare coverage and millions more to lose nutrition benefits, leading to job losses and unnecessary deaths. Democrats characterized the bill as a "Robin Hood in reverse" scheme, taking from the poor and giving to the rich.

Trade and Tariffs

The administration defended its trade policies and the use of tariffs, presenting them as essential tools to rebalance the global economy and ensure fair treatment for American manufacturers, farmers, and workers.[ 00:34:12-00:34:23 ]

Secretary Bessent highlighted a new U.S.-U.K. trade deal and ongoing negotiations with China, asserting that China's imbalanced economy necessitates firm action to prevent it from exporting its way out of domestic problems. Republicans also supported provisions in the bill to defend U.S. tax sovereignty against discriminatory foreign taxes.

Democrats criticized the administration's tariff approach, calling it chaotic and detrimental to international allies, and noted that it raises prices for American consumers. They pointed to China's past failures to uphold trade commitments and raised concerns about the lack of enforceable dispute mechanisms in new executive trade "frameworks." The World Bank's projections of a significant drop in U.S. economic growth due to tariffs were also cited.[ 03:43:23-03:43:23 ]

IRS Modernization and Oversight

The administration claimed success in modernizing the IRS, noting a successful tax filing season and improved efficiencies with reduced costs. Secretary Bessent emphasized a focus on collection, privacy, and customer service, while dismissing criticisms about underfunding or staff reductions as misinterpretations.[ 02:32:16 ]

Democrats countered that any IRS improvements stemmed from investments made through the Inflation Reduction Act and raised concerns about the "weaponization" of the IRS, alleged sharing of taxpayer data with other agencies, and potential political interference in audits. They questioned the wisdom of reducing the IRS workforce and cutting technology funding, which they believe hinders effective tax collection.

Tone of the Meeting

The meeting was largely contentious and polarized, marked by frequent interruptions, strong disagreements, and accusations, particularly from Democratic members directed at Secretary Bessent. Secretary Bessent often adopted a defensive posture, deflecting "yes or no" questions about the bill's impact on debt and beneficiaries, and challenging the credibility of opposing data sources.[ 01:03:28 ]

[ 02:55:56-02:55:56 ] Conversely, Republican members were largely supportive, providing the Secretary with opportunities to elaborate on the administration's policies and often echoing his talking points.[ 00:59:05-00:59:14 ] [ 01:20:21-01:20:25 ] Despite the overall confrontational atmosphere, the meeting began with a brief moment of bipartisan respect during the tribute to Charlie Rangel.[ 00:20:06-00:21:01 ] [ 00:22:44-00:23:09 ]

Participants

Transcript

Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman.  And thank you for this recognition of our departed colleague.  Charlie Rangel was one of the finest people that I have met in my long political career.  Saw him as a mentor.  Saw him as a guide.   but also saw him as an individual who overcame extraordinary odds in his own life.  And he spoke of the anecdotes that should be powerful to all of us, as we recall his contributions, including sitting in the chair when the Affordable Care Act was written.  And I also think that despite whatever setbacks he had in a nation that was pretty segregated when he was growing up as a young man, he might have been a high school dropout.  He might have been an individual who was pushing a cart   at the Fulton Street fish market, but he also saw opportunity.  And he always referred to America as this great country of ours.  And I think that in his early days, there might have been reason for him not to think it was quite as great as the nation he came to serve as a war hero at the Yalu River.  But it was also part of urban lore.  It was part of the story of how we've all arrived here.  And Charlie Rangel was a very important part of that mosaic.   I will share one very funny story because his sense of humor was gratifying to all of us.  He could take the steam out of an argument in 10 seconds after he listened very carefully to what somebody had to say.  But I think meeting the Chinese government was one of the funniest moments that I had with him.  We met in the Capitol.   And at that time, the Chinese government had not really made the sort of reforms that many of us have come to see today.  They were not dressed in Madison Avenue garb.  At that time, they were dressed in military uniforms, men and women.  And we were all wondering how Chairman Rangel would greet Madam Wu Yi and probably 25 members of the Chinese cabinet.