Hearings to examine proposed budget estimates for fiscal year 2026 for the Department of Energy.
Senate Subcommittee on Energy and Water Development
2025-05-21
Summary
This meeting of the Financial Services and General Government Subcommittee welcomed the Administrator of the Small Business Administration (SBA), Kelly Loeffler, to discuss the President's fiscal year 2026 discretionary budget request and the agency's recent reforms[ 00:18:33 ] . The session involved opening statements from Chairman Hagerty and Ranking Member Reed, followed by questions to Administrator Loeffler regarding the SBA's operations, budget, and impact on small businesses[ 00:18:33 ] .
Themes
SBA Budget, Restructuring, and Efficiency
The Administrator outlined a budget strategy focusing on streamlining services, eliminating waste, and ensuring measurable results for taxpayers[ 00:30:31 ] . She highlighted efforts to return the agency to pre-pandemic staffing levels and shift resources to field offices, cutting over $3 billion in wasteful contracts. This reorganization aims to improve accountability and deliver capital to job creators, claiming an 80% increase in loan approvals in the first 100 days compared to the previous administration. Concerns were raised, however, that workforce reductions could undermine the agency's ability to function[ 00:34:32 ] .
Impact of Tariffs on Small Businesses
Ranking Member Reed expressed significant concern about the uncertainty and increased costs created by President Trump's tariff regime, citing examples of businesses struggling with tight margins. Senator Murray also shared stories of small businesses importing goods like green tea that face closure due to tariffs, questioning the SBA's immediate support for these businesses. Administrator Loeffler defended the tariffs as part of a fair trade agenda, emphasizing long-term benefits for American workers and industry, and promoting initiatives like the "Make Onshoring Great Again" portal[ 00:37:40 ] .
Support for Manufacturing and Economic Growth
Chairman Hagerty applauded the SBA's "Made in America Manufacturing Initiative" and inquired about proposed legislation to increase manufacturing loan limits from $5 million to $10 million at zero cost to taxpayers[ 00:30:58 ] . The Administrator emphasized the importance of tax cuts, immediate expensing, and deregulation in stimulating investment and job creation in manufacturing[ 00:33:03 ] . She highlighted record manufacturing loan approvals in the first 100 days of the administration and the focus on developing a skilled workforce for new-collar jobs.
SBA Program Reforms and Controversies
The Administrator detailed reforms, including reinstating lender fees, restoring underwriting standards, and implementing identity verification protocols. She also mentioned depoliticizing the agency by eliminating DEI mandates, terminating the Green Lender Initiative, and withdrawing from voter registration schemes. Senator Mullin praised these actions, asserting that loans should be based on merit rather than political ideas[ 00:45:21 ] . Ranking Member Reed questioned the involvement of "Doge" team members and their partisan affiliations.
Disaster Relief Efforts
Chairman Hagerty thanked the SBA for its critical work in helping Tennesseans recover from Hurricane Helene[ 00:21:36 ] . Senator Van Hollen sought and received assurance from Administrator Loeffler that the SBA would expedite disaster relief for Western Maryland following severe floods, noting that SBA declarations can be made independently of FEMA declarations. The Administrator stated that the SBA has put out more disaster loans in the first 100 days than in the entire previous year.
Veterans Programs
Ranking Member Reed expressed concern over proposed budget cuts eliminating 15 of 16 entrepreneurial development programs, specifically the SBA Veterans Outreach Program, which he deemed unacceptable. He questioned why the SBA was cutting aid to veterans, citing a potential 46% decrease in dedicated funding[ 01:16:17 ] . Administrator Loeffler countered that the administration is increasing veteran outreach, integrating services with Small Business Development Centers (SBDCs), and addressing previous "social engineering" that had crowded out veteran programs.
Potential Transfer of Student Loan Portfolio
Senators Van Hollen and Reed questioned the possibility of transferring the $1.6 trillion student loan portfolio, with 43 million borrowers, from the Department of Education to the SBA[ 01:12:01 ] . The Administrator acknowledged the discussion but stated no final decision had been made, adding that such a move would require congressional action. Concerns were raised about the SBA's capacity to manage such a large portfolio, especially with concurrent workforce reductions[ 01:15:29 ] .
SCORE Program
Senator Coons advocated for the SCORE program, emphasizing its efficiency, reliance on 10,000 volunteers, and significant return on investment in new federal tax revenue. He asked for an update on its funding and how it fits into the agency's mission. The Administrator acknowledged the value of resource partners like SCORE but stressed the need to unify and streamline services within budget constraints, leveraging SBDCs for direct access and avoiding overlapping services[ 00:50:14 ] .
Paid Family Leave Tax Credit
Senator Fischer inquired about increasing awareness for a tax credit for employers offering paid family and medical leave, which is set to expire this year. She requested the SBA's commitment to diligently carry out outreach and technical assistance if authority and funding are provided. Administrator Loeffler welcomed the conversation, noting the SBA's refocused field organization and SBDCs as excellent conduits for supporting this initiative[ 00:55:48 ] .
Support for Native-Owned Businesses
Senator Fischer sought commitment from the Administrator to continue working on ensuring that SBA tribal efforts, particularly through the 8(a) contract program for native-owned companies, are protected and promoted despite the executive order eliminating DEI programs. Administrator Loeffler affirmed her commitment, stating she looks forward to further discussion and visiting the Senator's state to learn more about the issues[ 00:56:43 ] .
Tone of the Meeting
The meeting had a mixed tone, characterized by partisan division and underlying tension, particularly during exchanges between the Ranking Member and the Administrator. While opening statements expressed a desire for bipartisan cooperation, discussions quickly revealed stark disagreements on policy, budget priorities, and the impact of the administration's actions on small businesses[ 00:18:58 ] . The Administrator maintained a confident and assertive posture, defending the administration's reforms as necessary to correct past inefficiencies and political agendas. Some senators, however, voiced skepticism and concern about the real-world consequences for small businesses and veterans' programs[ 00:36:00 ] .
Participants
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